In tonight's Town Council meeting it was decided that the Town WILL be mounting a defense against the Red Oak lawsuit.
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28 comments:
Whoa.
The drilling companies cannot control where the gas is located. It has been there for over 500 million years.
In a time when the economy is struggling here is a gift that will help me and my family without impacting my life. A little extra traffic for a couple in months is an inconvience I surely can handle.
I am just happy to live in an area that will be benefiting from this. I know for a fact that when I bought my home (now renting it out)I never would have thought about this. Let's all just hope that they find lots of gas!
Just hope they don't decide to put a trencher right through your front yard to deliver that gas (which by the way, would not be oderized). I guess you would classify that as not impacting your life. If you need an extra $50 dollars a month to stay afloat, you certainly do have some issues, I would start by finding a better job or going back to school and not worrying about gas.
Go back to school?
I am assuming that you believe your Texas Tech undergrad degree is worth something? Maybe one too many keg stands? Probably.
Here are some facts;
-Red Oak WILL drill the well
-Your tax money WILL go to overpaid lawyers
-You WILL receive nothing for not signing
-The community/city WILL benefit from the drilling
Staying afloat?
Living in Southlake and having vacation homes in both Vail and La Jolla is not exactly staying afloat (with all due respect). Maybe I will drive by and see you digging that trench in front of my home? After all, the world does need "ditch diggers!"
However, if manual labor doesn't quite fit your qualifications I always need help in my mailroom...get back to me.
-Stanford MBA '74
I'm just wondering, who do you think this is? Thank you for identifying yourself as an outside interest and NOT a person who lives in this community. Good job pissing off everyone who ever graduated from Texas Tech. Maybe there are some UT grads who oppose drilling, maybe some A&M folks too, let me guess they are all idiots too. There are many MD's and PhD's who oppose it too, all morons, right? The more you guys speak, the more you alienate the public. Keep it up, you do more for this cause than anyone else could.
I am not a ditch digger but I do know some, but yes, the world does need them, and they are humans and deserve respect, the same as all humans do. Your elitist attitude is well, quite apparent.
So you're so fired up, because you live in Southlake, but rent a home in Flower Mound, so you will get some income from your property in Flower Mound. What's your real driver here, I don't think it's $50/mo and "patriotism".
Also, get some sleep, that 1 am blogging is brutal. I would also suggest taking a vacation in one of those lovely homes, you apparently need it, your a little on edge.
For the record, I employ many people both locally and in the Austin area and sell product internationally (i.e. I bring in more foreign based income than I consume personally) and I work with Fortune 500 companies on a daily basis, but who's keeping score, oh right, you were.
http://www.uwsp.edu/geo/faculty/ozsvath/LECTURES/Subsidence.htm
David L. Ozsvath, Ph.D., Professor of Geology
Sorry, didn't post so good the first time....
http://www.uwsp.edu/geo/faculty/ozsvath/LECTURES/Subsidence.htm
David L. Ozsvath, Ph.D., Professor of Geology
I cannot wait till this well is drilled and can make some money $$$!
The Northshore drill site surrounding homeowners had another 150 leases signed and filed in the county courthouse on Wednesday. how many have signed and filed so far? Looks like as many as have signed the anti-drilling petition. You can bet this lawsuit will not be settled in an elected court but an appointed court. If it is in fact true that the mineral estate dominates over the surface estate, this issue badly needs court time. I could care less either way. as a local resident, I have seen and heard the drilling, I am not frightened by it, and really don't care if it happens or not. I would rather have a quiet gas well next door, than a rooftop with a bunch of noisy pool swimming rug rats bandying about. This issue smacks too much of soccer moms who can no longer afford to cruise around in their Hummer 3 and now need a fight with nothing else to do with their time, till little johnny comes home from daycare, and mineral owners squatting on their quarter acre thinking of untold riches. I DON'T CARE.
If you don't care, then why bother taking the time to come to this site read and post? The opposition is not made up of just soccer moms with nothing to do. We are business men and woman, stay at home parents with little time for anything but raising our children and making sure they grow up in a safe environment, republicans, dems, and independents. We come from all walks of life. If you don't care, then stop wasting our time by blogging on this site. No, I am not the administrator of this site. Just someone who truly is a "Flower Mound Citizen Against "URBAN" Drilling."
I assure you, by blogging on this site I waste no one's time but my own. Please try to present your plausible arguments without being hateful, spiteful, or arrogant. There are and will be those who propose, those who oppose, and those of us in the middle. This issue is certainly not a "my way or the highway issue".
Then PLEASE practice what you preach. I think your little remarks about the "soccer moms" and the "noisy pool full of rug rats" QUALIFIES as a hateful, spiteful, and arrogant. My post was to defend those of us who are against but not for the reason of having nothing better to do. I simply stated that all different types of people, and many have children, are against urban drilling. Personally, I could care less if you ever post here again. But you may do whatever you want. But if you start name calling and being as you put it "hateful, spiteful, and arrogant", except the same back. You reap what you sow. I also stated it was a place to share info about and against Urban drilling. Which is exactly what this site is about. It is stated at the top. If you are undecided, then why come here and post with remarks like I would rather have a gas well than noisy rug rats. I think you have already made up your mind. Oops, I hope that didn't hurt your feelings.
This is Flower Mound, a lot of the "soccer Moms" have MBA's and make more than half of the men. Of the ones that don't, they usually run businesses AND take care of their kids, still more give selflessly of their time. No, I'm NOT a soccer Mom, but there are plenty of accomplished and good Moms on both sides of this issue, to categorize either group with that broad of a brush, is just strange to me.
Is it just me or is this blog becoming dull?
The "he said, she said" comments and metaphors run wild from blog to blog. I have personally lost interest in this topic.
There are good arguments for both sides with neither being correct. I say let the chips fall where they may. I for one do not have the energy to be protesting for $100 checks every month. I trust the city officials to make the right decision.
There is nothing dull about our quality of life. I was in a doctors office waiting room yesterday with 2 women from wise county. They had driven in to go together to see the doctor. They told me some incredible stories. One does not own their mineral rights on their 23 acres and said the gas company showed up about 4 years ago and started drilling, giving them a small amount for damage to their property. They bulldoze about 100 trees and have never replaced them. They had to redrill a new water well because all water wells 200ft and above in the area are completely contaminated from the gas drilling. The other said they bought land to build their dream home on over 20 acres and found out they didn't own their mineral rights. Since they can't afford to sell it, no one will buy it, they are going to put their house as far away as possible from the well. Their roads have been torn up and it takes daily calls, sometimes more than once day, for weeks, to get them to do something about it. When they finally come and fix what they have done, there are new problems. Both said, if they owned their mineral rights on these decent sized property, they would of never signed. The wells are at least 1100' from their houses and they are causing many problems. They can't afford to move because they can't sell their property. They also said they have so many injection wells in the area that have had contamination accidents, the Texas Railroad commission has finally stopped giving permits in wise county for injection wells. They were glad that the gas drilling is finally getting some negative news attention. They tried years ago, but couldn't get the news media out there. All of their friends and neighbors are closely watching what is happening here in FM. This is straight from the horses mouth and I believe them more than some info commercial from Cheesy peake.
That's odd. The Railroad Commission approved two new injection wells this year in Wise county. 1/15/2008 and 6/17/2008.
It is possible that the Texas railroad commission just decided this in the last month. Why do you have to be so sarcastic. I believe these people when they say they are unhappy. Maybe they have been told that there will not be any injection wells. The last one was issued over a month and a half ago. But they do have drilling on their property and they are living with it day to day that is a true fact. I tend to believe them when they tell their story. They had nothing to gain by telling lies. Unlike the gas companies who will lose money if they can't drill. Who have millions of dollars to hire actors and pay off people to say that gas drilling in neighborhoods is great for the country and our economy. We all know none of us will get rich from signing leases on are little 1/4 acre lots. But the gas companies and developers are rich and will continue to get rich. That is a fact.
I don't feel I am being overly sarcastic. You obviously are much more passionate about this issue than I. I do not berate nor abuse those with a differing opinion. If you are the blog originator than I apologize and shall step aside and enjoy watching a one sided argument. If not, tolerance my children, for those with a different opinion.
Read the vast history on here and will find that nearly 100% of the time, it is the pro-drilling, pro-pipeline, pro-eminent domain crowd who comes down with an iron fist on those with differing opinions.
I would rather be passionate about something worthy like our environment, quality of life, and health than tolerant of pro drillers who pretend they don't care either way but can't help but argue with every poster on this site. I wish someone would start a blog like drilloneverycorner so people like you could go there and give them a bad time about being passionate about drilling because i will say it again....you really don't care either way right?
I don't understand this "drilleverycorner" statement. I don't believe that is anyone's intent. If I have offended, I apologize. I am merely a fence sitter who has studied the issue for three years, not last week. Maybe I do care that certain sites can be drilled safely without much citizen inconvenience, and some sites in the more densley populated areas of town should be scrutinized with a "fine tooth comb" and possibly refused for health and safety concerns. Am I "arguing with all posters"? Am I coming down with an "iron fist"? I hardly think so.
I think you finally get what this site is about. It is about not drilling in high density neighborhoods as stated on the main page. Not about being against all drilling. And yes, we are very passionate about this and have done a lot of research too.
I do, and all along have " gotten what this site is about". But I must have missed the "high density" neighborhoods, around the Riverwalk site, though.
There will be 1,250 units there.
Are you trying to protect the 1250 that will choose to live there, knowing the wells are there, and purchase anyway? I do not believe that is part of this debate and certainly not your concern, until high density exhists. You want to inhibit drilling where there is high density residential. At Riverwalk, there is not. That is why this will fail.
As an interested party here and not very knowledgeable about this I am a litte concerned about the safety issue with drilling in Urban areas, but I have done my own research. I don't trust a lot of what I hear or read from either side of this issue. After Going to DCAD and researching some names on the petition, most are backed up to "proposed drill sites", that have yet to be permitted. The opposition seems to be those with mineral rights who stand to benefit financially. After researching I don't fear the drilling rig or operation that will be there for less than thirty days per well (they don't blow up). But the pipeline... I already have an easement in my front yard for electric, transmission gas, etc. I think we have a 75 foot setback for structures so I can't build there anyway. I have yet to find a safety issue with a city regulated gathering line. Can someone clue me in to the safety problem with pipelines without a nimby perspective? If not, I'll let you folks "duke it out" over your own personal agendas. I require information, not "passion".
Here are some articles on pipelines and royalty checks. Read and decide what is best for you. You are right, the pipelines scare me more than anything else. I am worried about the pipelines that bring the gas to my house now. I don't want anymore to worry about.
http://www.star-telegram.com/804/story/796952.html
http://startelegram.typepad.com/barnett_shale/files/gas_pipelines_might_be_hidden_worry.html
http://www.riverreporter.com/issues/08-05-08/head2-drilling.html
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/stories/DN-oakhurst_07wes.ART.West.Edition1.42d03c2.html
The gathering lines would NOT be oderized, so **if** there is a leak, you would not know it, unlike you do from the gas coming into your home now. Do you like the idea of gas companies declaring eminent domain on your (or your neighbors property)? The gas companies started this whole thing with "landowners rights", well, it's going to come full circle and I can't think of a more fundamental landowner right, than the right NOT to have something built on land you are supposed to own. Drill on your land, fine, but when you need a pipe on my land to get it done, now your on my domain and the free market can reign. You either pay what the market demands, or it doesn't come through.
The article posted above shows that we really don't have control over where the pipelines go. That is why it is best to keep the drilling away from dense neighborhoods. Ft. Worth is dealing with this now because they allowed drilling orignally 300' from homes but now I believe it is 600' to 1000' from high density neighborhoods and the gas has to get out and can't be trucked out like the waste water can.
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